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Tailwind Creator on the Challenges of Open Source

#020 · August 3, 2025

Tailwind Creator on the Challenges of Open Source
Thank You! https://blacksmith.sh our sponsor today! Speed up your GitHub Actions AND pay less! https://tailwindcss.com/sponsor Love Tailwind? Consider Sponsoring! If you want delicious coffee sold only over SSH: ssh terminal.shop đŸŽ™ïž Hosts: - TJ @teej_dv - Trash Dev @trash_dev - Prime @ThePrimeagen 🎯 Guest: Adam Wathan - Creator of Tailwind CSS https://adamwathan.me https://x.com/adamwathan https://tailwindcss.com/ 📌 Chapters: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:04 - "Open Source is Pain" - Tailwind Creator 00:04:37 - Sponsor: Blacksmith - Faster GitHub Actions #ad 00:05:15 - The Reality of Open Source at Scale 00:10:55 - Cost of Full-Time Open Source 00:13:06 - Rust Rewrite & Performance Gains 00:16:29 - Sponsorship vs Business Models 00:22:48 - The Emotional Side of Open Source 00:30:15 - The Courage to Fire Users 00:37:46 - How Tailwind Spends Money 00:44:04 - How to Champion Open Source while making money 00:54:06 - Licenses in Open Source 00:58:00 - Tailwind is a hard business 01:00:14 - VC vs Lifestyle Open Source Projects 01:07:50 - Replication in Open Source 01:11:00 - Tailwind Fortnite Skins 01:16:00 - We agree on the words finally 01:18:00 - Thanks & Wrap Up Key topics include: - The reality of maintaining open source at massive scale - Why sponsorship models often fail and what works instead - The psychological challenges of community management - How to build sustainable businesses around open source - The future of developer tooling and AI's impact 🐬 Bonus Section 🐬 ┆ ┆ ┆ ┆ ┆ ┆ ┆ àŁȘ ˖☆ àŁȘ⭑┆ ʁ˖ .☆ . ʁ ˖ ☆âŠč àŁȘ ┆ ˖ àŁȘ âŠč àŁȘ ★ ⋆.˚ âŠč àŁȘ . àŁȘ ˖⋆˚★ ₊ âŠč  àŁȘ˖ àŁȘ ₊ àŁȘ ˖  .   ˚ . . ʁ âŠč àŁȘ ˖    àŁȘ ˖    .   ˚ .   *   . . ʁ    ʁ   .   ˚   *   . .   .   ˚ .  *   . *  *   . *   .   *   . Did you actually read this description?   .   ˚ .   *  . Was it useful?  *  .   ˚ . ˚  . *   .  *   .  *   . Did it have everything you were looking for?   .    .  . *   . If you wanted to see something different, what would that be? .    . . * Do you think Tailwind would have been as popular if it was named Headwind? .   ˚ . How much Tailwind do you think Prime really knows?  .   ˚ .   *   . Who do you want to see on The Standup next?   .   ˚   *   . *   . .   ˚ .   *  .   ˚ . ˚  .    .  .    . . *  .   ˚ .  .  .   ˚ .  .   ˚   *   . *   .  *   .  *   .  *   .  *   .  *   .  *   .  *   .